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Terry92
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Donation +

Post#1 » 16 Nov 2017, 15:48

Would be a nice idea, t mogs like a crown and title for all donors. That spend money to keep this server running.
Total: 50$ - a Mount
Total: 100$ - King/Queen title / for 1 char.
Total: 150$ - transmog on the head ,,crown" / for 1 char.
Total: 200$ - account wide ,,title" + ,,crown" accwide
Total: 250$ - t6 waist + bracers / unlock free legendary tmog/ or anything that helps us ingame maybe a teleportitem acc wide into our bag / an Item maybe in our bag that makes our footsteps making fire (0dmg)

But fokus is the crown and the title that show us who is helping this server to stay allive.
Donors need some cookies :)

Any other ideas ?

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Bucovsky
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Post#2 » 17 Nov 2017, 11:28

good idea

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Comeherefour
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Post#3 » 17 Nov 2017, 23:47

Kill yourself.

Terry92
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Post#4 » 18 Nov 2017, 00:47

People like u cant help this server so keep ur shittalk and write something usefull kid

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ludvigpasse
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Post#5 » 18 Nov 2017, 01:23

i like the idea and have proposed similar ones in the past. but everyone have been very critizising about actual advantages being avaliable for donations outside of what is currently avaliable even if its 200+ dollars for a very marginal stat increase. i think these types of suggestions that you proposed would be usefull though because it would create probably many thousands of dollars to the server if implemented right for mostly cosmetical gain for the donor and also possibly some very marginal gear/stat advantages which would NOT change pvp balance at all outside off of possibly top rated arena. (like t6 belt/bracer idea) and make the server a better place for more or less everyone actually because money incentives updates and work to make the server better.

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ludvigpasse
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Post#6 » 18 Nov 2017, 01:31

also i would like to see more stuff added to the donation section that we can normally get in game but which is gonna take a while. for example this could be donating for recepies you can obtain normally in game. exalted with a wider variety of factions for the 8 euro per faction thats currently avaliable and being able to directly donate for bg marks ( to finnish tmogs) and chocolate boxes.

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ludvigpasse
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Post#7 » 18 Nov 2017, 01:54

personally i would love to see legendary donor gems (no meta gems though) with 2x the stats of the epic counterparts so for instance 24spelldamage 20 resiliance or 44 bh being avaliable for 100 euros or dollars per gem or 500 wep frags. Something like this would create alot more character developement while also giving alot of income to the server wirhout really affecting pvp balance at all pretty much. fully gemmed would be about 4000 wep frags or 800dollars/euros which is alot and very very few people will achieve this and it would probably only be like season 4.20 or 4.25 in stat strenght which doesnt really matter when the difference between s2 and s4 is already so big. perhaps just ban it from arenas all together tho but in bgs it would not decide the outcome of games except for maybe one bg out of a couple hundred ones.

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Post#8 » 18 Nov 2017, 08:20

okay ludvig you convinced me there to be honest after a couple of years here i learned how to stop worrying and love p2w so i think its a good idea rly i mean it really i believe the intent of such donation is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different stat gems but i think we also need to be able to donate for an edit post option but thats just my opinion man

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ludvigpasse
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Post#9 » 18 Nov 2017, 11:10

i know your being ironic. but actually the server is already p2w. i think it was a misstake to make s4 5 dollars it should have been 50 or 100. same goes for swp weapons. but its to late for that now. i think that donation+ does not have to mean you can donate for actual stat advantages. although it might be hard to motivate players to donate 100dollars+ for just cosmetic changes when s4 is just 5 dollars in comparison. but im certainly in favor for original posters idea but i think more people would donate alot of money for a small stat boost (t6 belt+bracer or stronger gems for example) then a crown xmog.

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Post#10 » 18 Nov 2017, 11:14

At OP's idea: Titles are not really possible to be added into the game, which is why you don't see other servers adding titles. As for a crown -- what crown, what model? There's so much ability to transmog in the game, nearly any crown-looking item would have a duplicate somewhere in the game that people would just transmog to making the donor crown look common. It's a nice idea though, but the donor system never went in with the intent to keep track of past donations. For example, the transaction page on the account page doesn't have any of the PayPal donations from 2008-2013. That page was added when we stopped supporting PayPal and had to use Google Wallet, and after that, the now Paymentwall. Because all those old donations are not linked to people's accounts, there's no realistic way for me to be able to count the donations of the most major and active parts of SF's history.

At Ludvig, we've always been pretty against custom-stat items for our entire history, and plan on keeping it that way. It's what's separated us from being just a fun end-game server, to a custom server. Donating for chocolate boxes, and more factions is something to be considered, I just haven't heard any interest in such, and therefore not really added anything. The chocolate boxes seems like a bit P2W though, but I'm not really sure what people think of that.

In regards to the donation being too cheap, this is due to SF's age. In 2008 you donated for gear. There was no "anti-P2W" model at the time. Since we were a new and small server, charging super high prices was a ridiculous thing to ask, so we priced it low. Over time, I didn't feel it was fair to raise the price since the server never has wiped, and wouldn't be far to newer players, so we've kept the model ever since. A lot of the things people want to change amount SF would have needed to happen eons ago, and changing many things now redefines Smolderforge in a way.
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